Beauty the black one would be good for 4h but needs work, she has been sitting in the pasture for a very long time. But with lots of work she will be perfect! Cimarron, would be best for a pasture pal for Beauty or a project horse. Cimarron kind of has a attitude here and there but he is getting better about it, he does buck when you put the saddle on him, since he needs quite a bit of work with being ridden and we are new to horses and we do not know what to do with this situation with him, he will be free if you want to buy Beauty. All though my daughter has ridden him a couple of times and he was good, she was only been bucked off once but he has been sitting for a long time. So maybe with LOTS of work he will be a good trail horse, or just a great pasture pal for Beauty since they have been together for a very long time! Both are very healthy, they are up to date on shots, worming, and farrier will be brought in soon for their hooves.